Christian Rocker Posts Stunning Response to Recent Apostasy of Christian Leaders, Chicago Radio Host & a Former Bodyguard Say James MacDonald Asked Them to Arrange Murders, James MacDonald Took Millions from Harvest & Now Demands Broadcast Ministry, Mancow Airs Shocking Comments By James MacDonald: My Response. Opinion: What is Revivaland is it Happening at Asbury? He should sell cars or computers. I had, of course, people from Harvest who had heard it, sending me sending me clips. When I did not immediately respond, MacDonald tweeted I had declined his invitation, which I did not. I also knew that I needed to talk enough so that it wasnt like, well, this whats whats going on with him? And I listened to it. Although as soon as, pretty much after Mancow aired it. Keep in touch with Julie and get updates in your inbox! And when he sees he cant save it, it sounds like then he was trying to lobby for being able to resign, and a lot of emotional manipulation being used that weekend from from what youve told me. And I remember being in the meeting thinking, I cant believe were arguing about this. Pastor James will provide answers in upcoming featured video posts. Whether he was going to resign or have an opportunity to resign or, you know, terminate his employment was to be determined at that point. Again, she was the the wife of Dave Corning who was an elder at Harvest for over 20 years, and telling her stories, and one of her stories was you know about pictures of her being put up on a on a wall as a target practice for James McDonald and her seeing this shot up with a pellet gun. And we got to a Saturday meeting then on the ninth. Were just talking a minute ago, you know, the emotion and the weight and the relief and the sadness, and all those things are true. My strength is dried up, as by the heat of summer. In an email to The Roys Report (TRR), Vernick noted that in the Old Testament, Abigail, the wife of the boorish and immature, Nabal, was a strong woman, married to a weak characterand she wasnt toxic. The Roys Report has over 78 articles dedicated to MacDonald and/or HBC, many of which were written by Roys. I had asked one of the one of the people on the reconciliation team earlier that day, I said, Im going to go into a meeting with James McDonald and I need I need to have the letters I need to know. Thats a Tuesday night. I remember sitting on my couch waiting to press the button to publish it. A strong woman with a weak husband will become a toxic woman. And we had consensus from everybody in the room that James McDonald was not qualified to as an elder and that his employment at Harvest Bible Chapel was over. I remember waking up that morning. On Thursday, the seventh, I got a text from one of the elders who said, Call me if you can before such and such a time. And then saying, I need a private jet to fly me home. And there is one thing we know about Satan. Also, any comments with profanity, name-calling, and/or a nasty tone will be deleted. I dont understand how folks in a church can continue to contribute to the church knowing that a significant portion of their contributions have gone / are going to line someones pocket in this dispute. The devil is at work. James McDonald recently did a video with Ron Duitsman, as you said, former chairman of the elder board, where he claims this was all part of a campaign by Dallas Jenkins, who's a former executive leadership team member at Harvest. And we shouldnt be, you know, happy with standing in line and say, well, so and so said that, right? Of it could be that shes been taken in by him. Gosh she is just filthy with gossip as fact and at very best half the story. I at least heard of it from somebody by that point. Again, Dan was one of the elders who confronted James back in 2012, and then got excommunicated from Harvest. But But I remember saying to the guys, listen, heres the passages Ive been studying. In a recent Instagram story, Visconti, pastor of Generation Church in Mesa, claimed abuse is not a biblical justification for divorce. And in an Instagram post on November 21 that received 5,621 likes Visconti wrote: A weak woman with a strong husband will become a strong woman. And a few days later James MacDonald's sons, Luke and . But again, you push that issue, you got those letters. But to tell people they have to stay in a situation of violence, trauma and harm, or return to it, this is not a core tenet of Christianity. No One Knows. And by that time Harvest was 30, in its 31st. Who Will Pay for the SBCs Abuse Reforms Over the Long Term? So grateful to be healthy and happy in the Lord to where I can finally wade into the filth from JuLIE Roys. Its come to this. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive a copy of Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. Had they reached all the elders at this point? You are Julie. ARC is one of the largest church planting organizations in North America. Yeah, I got sued, but the case got dropped. She was a late comer to those of us who had been exposing MacD for a long time. And Dan said it was just so unnerving. And I dont know what his exact words were, but it was basically dont you dare read scripture to me. And I know its cost you personally. Would you consider making a tax-deductible donation to help our journalists continue to report the truth and restore the church? Wives submit to your husbands. But somewhere around 2008-10 his preaching changed a bit. The picture with deceiver Kari Lake speaks volumes! James MacDonald (@jamesmacdonald) June 14, 2021. I have them up at my website if you want to see those. I was there at HBC & witnessed it. There was a whole discussion about whether he was repentant and I said, I dont know, hes not repentant. He is not a pastor. And I stopped my car. According to Harvest Bible Chapel pastor James McDonald, former Moody Radio host Julie Roys and bloggers Ryan Mahoney and Scott Bryant published and helped publicize false and damaging financial . Understanding & Overcoming Spiritual Abuse, Part II, Understanding & Overcoming Spiritual Abuse, Escaping & Healing from Abusive Churches, Part 2. And and again, I got out of this like so unbelievably easily. And with that opening, I felt like it was confirmed. Just look at King David . "Mancow Airs Shocking Comments By James MacDonald": Julie Roys' Response February 12, 2019 Cherie Vandermillen [Julie Roys] I never thought I would hear an evangelical, mega-church pastor talk about planting child pornography on the computer of an executive at a Christian publication. It was a heated discussion about letters and who should have the letters who should read the letters, etc., that night. And when I read that, I just shook my head. Nah Gary, thats just typical cat behavior for you, with or without Kenneth Copeland. It basically says Jesus is as real as Santa Claus. Judson is a top ranked Christian university providing a caring community and an excellent college experience. And there was a voicemail from one of the pastors at Harvest, in a really sort of pushing for me to sign that put my name to that. There would be no Roys Report without Judson University. Not everybody had the physical letters, but we talked through what was in the letters. We had a group of Pastors who interviewed him and he gave us free tickets to his Straight Up conference. It was a conference call because it happened fast. And you then forwarded them to the elder board. It was in the very, very early days of its launch. The 8 Best Julie Roys Podcasts. But he said when he and Scott Phelps and Barry Slebaugh went into a meeting with James in the summer of 2012, asking for, whats your salary James? This is the most used and abused (pun intended) argument. So what happened? And there were several of us saying, you know, looking at I Timothy 5, looking at Hebrews 13:17, which tells us that elders are going to give an account. Maybe not as profoundly as somebody whod been involved so long, but it was powerful. Would you consider making a tax-deductible donation to help our journalists continue to report the truth and restore the church? You know, they asked him as an executive committee member and the elder board chairman. And then if you could, please share the podcast on social media so more people can hear about this great content. And they started reading scripture about the qualifications of the elders. (God) says, the prudent see danger and take refuge. George of course evangelicalism is [anti-Christ] fundamentalism. Well, maybe it had approval by the executive elders, maybe it had approval by Fred Adams, who was the CFO at the time. But again, reading those letters, and it does have a different impact when you read the actual letter than someone summarizes it. That would have been December I think 18th, 2018. But one of the circumstances hes talking about, hes talking about something specific where Id stood up for him in a meeting years ago. Hes a deceiver. So at the end of the night, no one got the letters. So Rick was, in effect, the Assistant senior pastor. And, again, this is five days after I published my expose of Harvest and World Magazine. To donate, click here. Im sad for his fall. In our required Old and New Testament classes, we utilized the Oxford Annotated Bible. However as I grew in age and hopefully in wisdom, I consulted other versions of the Bible. Divorce sadly acknowledges the truth. Its not being nice, polite, or inoffensive. She wanted me to look at it. If the church wants to regulate marriage, let them say you cant get remarried in their church if you are already married in the eyes of the church. And I checked my voicemail. In June, Visconti also posted a picture of him and his wife with James MacDonald and his wife. Julie Roys knows she published many false statements about me, false statements now proven such in a court of law, yet she has retracted nothing. The whole crooked machine needs to be brought down. It was demonic. Divorce is a civil remedy that is necessary when there is abuse, physical, emotional, financial, or even when people are incompatible. The text included the hashtags #gossipslut #gossipmonger #filthygutterwebsite #cancerinChristsbody., MacDonald also tweeted the invitation, referring to me as Julie Jezebel Roys.. Maybe some have on this platform for posting Julie has provided, but Ive never seen it. Whats wrong with Visconti supporting Kari Lake or speaking out against abortion or transgenderism? Yes, yes. As I saw it, this letter of unconditional support was a huge and somewhat desperate PR move on James MacDonalds part, to say, hey, look, all our leaders stand with us, I must be okay. I agree. If youd like to find me online, just go to Julieroys.com. Christian Rocker Posts Stunning Response to Recent Apostasy of Christian Leaders, Chicago Radio Host & a Former Bodyguard Say James MacDonald Asked Them to Arrange Murders, James MacDonald Took Millions from Harvest & Now Demands Broadcast Ministry, Mancow Airs Shocking Comments By James MacDonald: My Response. This was a many time thing. And I know I totally get what youre talking about. And they are even beloved by God. Thats what meeting and when youre in a conference called and youre making a decision like that, every elder everybody on the meeting on the call had to make right had the voice be asked any question you have. According to anindependent auditof Harvest Bible Chapel, disgraced celebrity pastor, James MacDonald, siphoned off millions in church funds to support his lavish lifestyle. Hear the dramatic and sovereignly orchestrated story of how MacDonalds actions finally came to light at Harvest. So Im deeply grateful for their faithful support. We see this is the third article this month youve found worth reading. Plus, the school offers more than 60 majors, great leadership opportunities and strong financial aid. Why is that? Very interesting discussion. Still. The leaders in our church spoke like KJ era British people when they prayed, I always wondered why. I was thrown out of the church we gave our lives to by a group of rogue leaders, MacDonald writes. On that Haiti trip. When I entered my UCC church-sponsored college, I figured out why. Send your questions about the Bible, ministry, or personal matters below. If hes ok with lies, that calls into question everything he preaches. And again, youre one of the people who actually apologized for that. Despite being disqualified from public ministry by his former megachurch for a "pattern of sinful behavior," James MacDonald is preaching at Generation Churchan Association of Related Churches (ARC) megachurch in Mesa, Arizona. But to also say, this was this was my fault, too. I totally get the emotion that you must have felt because I felt it, too. And thank you for loving our Lord and showing the way. Toward that end, the site requires that people use their full name when commenting. Thank you for taking the stand that you did. We see this is the third article this month youve found worth reading. Ryan Visconti, the Arizona pastor platforming discredited celebrity preacher James MacDonald is attracting attention . Because Im not a quiet guy in meetings. It is grounds for separation but not divorce., This view is popular in fundamentalist Christian circles. I wrote back to her, and I apologized to her. After you guys. Production and performance have replaced biblical exegesis and fellowship. But I knew I needed to do it. The fruit which was souls coming to Christ was enormous. And I said, Listen, I get it. And we were at an absolute stalemate. And I know it was a battle. According to The Elephant's Debt (TED), a blog critical of MacDonald that launched in the summer of 2012, MacDonald was then taking a salary over $500,000, and living on a $1.9 million estate. Vernick, however, believes abuse is grounds for divorce. Like wow! So its critically important that the truth be told. And marital and sexual satisfaction plummet.. First he used to walk up and down the isles and second it was a bit more exegetical than primarily exhortation based and those dynamics flipped. Should have that should have been enough of enough of a clue for me to say, Wait, wait, wait, thats a check. And then immediately after I felt that relief, I thought of Betsy Corning. That didnt happen. It seems we are being punished for the acts of someone who was our spiritual leader. They said no, for various reasons. It is not an ecclesiastical remedy at least not any longer. Well, Dan, like I said, on an earlier podcast that I had with Mancow Muller, I was hoping to be done with James McDonald and reporting on Harvest months ago. But according to a recent email by MacDonald, he's a victim of defamation by an "envious child"and needs your money "to rebuild." "Tragically . If theres other passages we should be talking about, lets talk about them. Again, only you and Mike Dunwoody, did that publicly. June 17, 2021 James MacDonald, the former megachurch pastor who's been embroiled in scandal and controversy for several years, is lashing out against independent journalist Julie Roys. Youre, youre characterizing it correctly. But, at whatever time it was, you know, midnight in India or something sitting in the lobby, I sent an email, put my name on it, heres my statement. Pastor Platforming James MacDonald Says Strong Women with Weak Husbands Become 'Toxic' By Julie Roys December 22, 2022 5:39 pm CST 26 Comments Pastor Ryan Visconti of Generation Church in Mesa, Arizona, is attracting attention for his partnership with James MacDonald and provocative social media posts. Im sorry, before a so called board.removes a man of God they must first consider the fruit of his ministry. Ive listened to the entire recording. ( was spent) That seems pretty straightforward. Thats what the weight was. And I was still on the board. Guest Bios Show Transcript Many times, those who have experienced spiritual abuse are retraumatized when they try to speak about whats happened. And today youre going to hear from a former insider at Harvest, former elder Dan George. Those are simply other examples of posts about controversial issues. Very sad situation for James and the elders as well. Hes talking about James McDonald, but not calling him out by name. And you know, Rick Donald was one of the people. I knew what the topic was. And I remember reading through that scripture and reading through Hebrews 13:17, about elders overseeing and giving an account, and Galatians 1:10 about am I trying to please man, am I trying to please God? And in those letters like Jacob Ross, who was the bodyguard of James McDonald. And learn how MacDonald almost escaped being exposedand how six scathing letters that revealed MacDonalds true nature almost failed to reach the elder board. And were like, boy, I hate to say this, but that just felt demonic. I really am so very sick of these self-righteous, insensitive, insulting church leaders who think they are the only ones who have a hardwire connection to God preaching on the subject of wives submit to your husbands while they leave out the husbands responsibility to love their wives as Christ loved the church. And that reminded me of something that Dan Marquardt told me. They discuss the role of journalism as it relates to local churches and prominent leaders, and her her current work investigating Harvest Bible Chapel and Pastor James MacDonald. But James McDonald, he did not like to fly with the commoners, from what I understand. You know, while while I was an overseer, I didnt know it. Tragically . Thats thats a much harder relaunch. And most of them, a number of them, Ill say, have not read any of these letters. And I actually requested the letter from Sandy, because Sandy had shared some things with us about what she had seen. And his email says, it seems we are being targeted. Just saying a lot of vile things. (Proverbs 27:12). And everyone who stayed just drank the Kool-Aid. It was a large elder board. when men make the final decision in the marriage, even if they consult with their wife first, chances of divorce increases 7.4 times . And it was a pretty tough meeting. Dan, thank you for being a humble man of God. The pastor of the largest church in Minnesota (around 23,000 average . He surrounded himself with yes men and used intimidation tactics to keep people in line. I felt physically sick reading the letter. Its loving to give medicine to a sick patient, and its loving to speak the truth to a deceived person.. I see that as just simply implicating a larger group and a conspiracy to use church money for stuff that was never intended. And you have James McDonald coming in, from the United States, getting off the plane for a little bit, doing a few meetings, which I guess he complained about doing. Hes like the whole the whole thing was about resigning. *Correction: A previous version of this story incorrectly reported that Visconti and Generation Church had deleted their social media accounts. Its funny how things turn out, and this situation isnt wrapped up, yet. Would you consider making a tax-deductible donation to help our journalists continue to report the truth and restore the church? Great! . Dr. John Street, the head of counseling at MacArthurs The Masters University, takes a harder line. uterus or clean out a womb after a stillbirth (because these treatments are labeled abortions, and even that word brings out comments like yours). Theres still one more thing I want to ask about. For more information just go to Judsonu.edu/visit. 28 Feb 2023 13:40:27 Tim, thanks I should have read before commenting and exactly! I called him. It wasnt an easy thing to do. Tell me about that meeting and what he did. His employment is coming to an end. Again, six, absolutely scathing letters. Hi. Yet another American megachurch is immersed in accusations of wrongdoings. From the overflow of your heart your mouth (and thumbs) are speaking. The Roys Report seeks to foster thoughtful and respectful dialogue. I know its your hope too, Dan, and I just want to thank you. TED also reported that MacDonald's church Harvest Bible Chapel was $65 million in debt. Im gonna put it up on my Facebook page, on my blog. Is that how it went down? The Asbury Revival Is Over. So that tells you something about the backbone and the integrity of Dan Marquardt. And that was the day that Mancow Muller aired these excerpts. And many who have followed this story know what James McDonald has done. Its phrased to make you feel morally superior. Roys detailed evidence from former Harvest elders, employees, and members that . A man of God who just wanted to take a vacation with his family, has the right to use church money which is his only source of income. So I mean, again, this was round. Now what we did do is there were probably I dont remember the number Julie. Its a reference to sex magik and the leaders have given a hat tip to their god right in the church name. Other posts decried abortion, transgenderism, and Christians who are apolitical or nice.. But would he have been able to save face do you think? We can put it up on the Harvest site, and Ill read it to the congregation on Saturday night. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive a copy of "Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse" by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. There were times in the meeting where, you know, I didnt even know what gaslighting was. The elder board of Harvest Bible Chapel formally apologized to independent journalist Julie Roys and several former members, months after joining founder James MacDonald in a defamation lawsuit accusing them of publishing false information about the church's management and finances last fall. And Im just trying to smear him. He says, Well, for when I kept silent my bones wasted through my groaning all day long for day and night, your hand was heavy upon me. James McDonald recently did a video with Ron Duitsman, as you said, former chairman of the elder board, where he claims this was all part of a campaign by Dallas Jenkins, whos a former executive leadership team member at Harvest. How does this relate to his view of women? That way youll never miss an episode. Honestly dont to this day. Ugh. We will talk through it. And my job was to get it to fellow elder board. Instead of focusing on who is stronger and who is weaker, why dont we focus on how both of us can be strong for the kingdom and live out the calling that God has given to each of us individually and as a couple?, Visconti also posted recently on his Instagram story that abuse is not a biblical justification for divorce. And I read all these verses, and we were talking about it. I know James McDonald says it was a conference call. 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