Simple business transaction where both sides benefit. One company that undeniably did discriminate against Catholics though was Guinness in Dublin yet i dont see any boycotts in place for that. You will love this stuff. -as he grabbed the Red Breast off the shelf. top off with chilled pulpy orange juice, AND stir lightly .. The Protestant/Catholic thing was explained to me as a labor dispute where a bunch of Catholic Derrymen were laid off from the Bushmills distillery or some shite. Will never forgive parents. If they do in fact have a Catholic Master Distiller, he is probably just the token worker. From the outset of the Reformation, Luther and his associates had fiercely proclaimed the Christian's obligation to "be subject to the governing authorities," asserting, with Saint Paul, that "the powers that be are ordained by God . Currently, I go though a case of Jameson for every bottle of Bushmills that we sell at our bar. Yep, he was referring to a certain product from Bushmills.. Regards, BTW, while traveling through a Protestant section of Belfast, our tour guide (who had a joke or good story for most Irish traditions) pointed out a notorious Loyalist BarThat bar there (the Hideout)was blown up many times by the IRA during the Troubles. Then he went on to say, If youre ever down and out and ready to end it all, and cash in your chips, go in that bar there and order a double Jameson, and youll find somebody in there to help you with your problem., There is no doubt that the Irish themselves know all about the Catholic Whiskey and the Protestant Whiskey. Jameson is the Catholic Whiskey, and Bushmills is the Protestant Whiskey., I met Noel Campbell owner of Bushmills he told me it does not matter what foot you you Wear your shoe on. linseed oil is used on its own or blended with other drying oils, resins and solvents as an impregnator and varnish in wood finishing, as a pigment binder in oil paints, as a plasticizer and hardener in putty and in the manufacture of linoleum. from wikipedia, Michael Jackson Help! I tasted the Jamesons before I poured in any ginger ale & so glad I did, Irish whiskey is sooooo much better IMHO than Scotch or bourbon IMHO. This is part of a long standing agreement from the old IDL days. Palate As far as I know, spirit doesnt really care which way you worship your sky-fairy. bushmills / black bush or a shirley bassey as we call it is by far thwe superior whisky in the lower price range. Bushmills also provides single malt for Powers, while Midleton (where many of teh Irish whiskies are produced) provides grain whiskey for the Bushmills blends. 17-18 years old found the love of my lifea catholic girl. Powers is for shooting, some of the swill mentioned here is OK for mixing and when I want a little variety, I go for a double Connemara 12 never get tired of the peated smoothness and wonderful finish. Raised going to church every goddamned Sunday. Bushmills is produced from 100% malted barley and grain whiskey (which it receives from the Midleton Distillery in Co. Cork where Jameson is made). Sectarianism in Glasgow takes the form of long-standing religious and political sectarian rivalry between Catholics and Protestants.It is particularly reinforced by the fierce rivalry between Celtic F.C. It is calles an ORANGEMANhas nothing to do with Syracuse University. Initially a war between various Protestant and Catholic states in the fragmented Holy Roman Empire, it gradually developed into a more general . In: St. Patrick's Day. @Matt: sorry to hear about religious intolerance in West Virginia but this is a discussion about the distilling history of Irish whiskey, not moonshine. Though in the end, I do really prefer Bushmills. Ive enjoyed most Irish whiskey Ive sampled, including Powers, Tully, and Bushmills. I hear that William Grant & Sons has a contract with LDI to have Tullamore Dew produced in Cork until 2025, so they will have to either be creative to release anything from the new distillery or have some mighty fine aged whiskey come the latter half of the next decade. Gin with a lime is Protestant. The answer is that it depends on the distillery. It makes things interesting. However, some of the buildings have been incorporated into the National College of Art and Design, and are now protected structures. Maybe they will bottle the Cork supply in Tullamore in the interim. It was their house label Irish before it was readily available in the US. Powers Gold Label for me, thank you very much. No one here has a soft spot in their heart for Paddys? When it comes to what crosses my lips I guess I am an agnostic. Id suggest Tullamore Dew, it was founded by Catholics and is still owned by a nice Irish Catholic company. The Emperor's war against the Lutheran princes put the first Protestant reformers in a difficult bind. Although I prefer my BUSHMILLS I am definitively a black bush person but I was mentioning that while spending a lot of time in Ireland back in 1998, I saw, while visiting the Bushmills distillery, cartons of Jameson bottles on the bottling chain. I still live there. Catholics represented the unstable Republican persona and therefore the company hired few people from the catholic areas. If I had a choice between Macallan 18 and Redbreast, think Id stay Irish. Polarised. Memories. The numbers level out when it comes to religions those. 2nd line was bottling Jameson. Irish whiskeys like Bushmills, Redbreast, Powers, and Green Spot, amongst others, have arisen on the market with their own distinctive characteristics. Yes, plenty of Irish whiskey is ordered as shots or in Pickle Backs, but it also works in a number of cocktails, including, of course, McGarry's The Dead Rabbit Irish Coffee. What can one expect from people who prefer grappa to the true Water of Life? The Roman Catholic Church responded to the Protestant challenge by purging itself of the abuses and ambiguities that had opened the way to revolt . Bushmills, on the other hand, was officially licensed in 1608 by King James I (of Bible fame) and despite of its location deep in the heart of Protestant country (and this next bit is straight from my local Bushmills rep, so take it or leave it) has a Catholic as a master distiller. Im an American Catholic raised in the bible belt, West Virginia to be exact. Powers is a brand of Irish whiskey. The date of 1608 doesnt even specifically relate to that brand but that a license was granted in somewhere in that general area. As for my preference, I tend to like the lighter Bushmills as its the first Irish whiskey I discovered years ago, and Ive certainly enjoyed my share of Jameson from time to time. Theres not catholic or protestant whiskey. Looking for Irish Whiskey to use in a recipe for bread pudding I paid a visit to our local liquor store and inquired as to the best Irish Whiskey available. While Redbreast is great, wonderful stuff, dont ever pass up a chance to sample their self-titled Middleton. In my opinion, its one of the blandest, albeit smoothest, whiskeys Ive tasted. But there was a bar that had a shot of Powers and a Guinness for $7, so as you can guess I ended up drinking quite a bit of it. I come from the border and powers was the biggest seller by ten to one over any other whiskey,jemmy was next ,bush mills was not even on the optics and it was all about their hiring practices of workers and not the religion of their owners, @jen Instead, American Catholics drew exten sively from an earlier movement launched by Father Mathew, a Catholic friar in Ireland.1 This article analyzes the ways in which lay Catholics adapted temperance 1. Thats like native Americans boycotting jack Daniels because of American colonialism. So, so stupid. The three also exchange used casks, when need be, if they have extra. The Protestant Reformation was a religious reform movement that swept through Europe in the 1500s. Tim, I made a great Manhattan variation last night with 2oz Powers Gold Label, 1oz Carpano Punt E Mes and a dash or two of Angostura (regular, not orange), stirred up with a cherry garnish and enjoyed it very much indeed. The whiskey was originally produced in Tullamore, County Offaly, Ireland, at the . My grandfather lost friends due to the awful abuses that were brought upon the Irish in the Republic by the Englishs Black and Tans, rumor has it the original owner of Bushmills was granted the right to distill due to the fact he helped suppress the Irish in the north from uprising against the British. Beaumont Funny, I thought of addressing that as I was wrapping up the post, but then thought, Nah, the chuckleheads who read this website arent smart enough to draw that conclusion. Guess I was wrong. [3], As the distillery grew, so too did the stature of the family. I find it to be a littlethick? Ive been a big fan of Jamesons for many years, first drinking it when I was younger. The root of this myth lies in the fact that Bushmills is located in the predominately Protestant and still British Northern Ireland. Do not place them next to each other. Your email address will not be published. However, this is just a rumor, but I did hear it from a pretty reliable source in the industry back in Ireland. It was largely untouched by the Troubles and paramilitaries. Upon this one should decide which whiskey they prefer, and not upon any religous matter. The northern Protestant states, angered by the violation of their rights to choose granted in the Peace of Augsburg, banded together to form the Protestant Union. Been sipping since I was a wee-lad and have tried lots of whiskey with leanings towards both Irish whiskey and Single malt Scotches. Like Jameson, it is blended whiskey, some combination of pure pot-still whiskey with column-still grain whiskey (allegedly 70% pure pot still to 30% grain). Spent a crap of $$$ too so we could compare them all side by side. Powers Gold Label is also wonderful and dirt cheap. It all comes down to politics in the grand scheme of things, be you Yank or Paddy. This is one of the myths encountered all the time, since Bushmills is located in predominantly Protestant Northern Ireland and Jameson is produced in the heavily Catholic Republic of Ireland. There were licenses to distill granted in and around the Bushmills area in 1608. In 1966, with the Irish whiskey industry still struggling following Prohibition in the United States, the Anglo-Irish Trade War and the rise of competition from Scotch whiskey, John Power & Son joined forces with the only other remaining distillers in the Irish Republic, the Cork Distilleries Company and their Dublin rivals John Jameson & Son, to form Irish Distillers. Prom_STar 9 yr. ago It is the second-largest-selling brand of Irish whiskey globally, with sales of over 1,500,000 cases per annum as of 2020. You may see the Co. Offaly whiskey grow even more now that William Grant & Sons owns it, and will be building the new distillery soon. Arthur Guinness was definitely Protestant And a Unionist. He was adamantly against Home Rule as well. Not sure if it is available outside of Ireland, but if you can, get a hold of a bottle. Then I spent another 20 minutes clicking around at random on your site, and then I ended up at this article, neatly explaining the first part of the joke. [11], In 1961, a Coffey still was installed in John's Lane Distillery, allowing the production of vodka and gin, in addition to the testing of grain whiskey for use in blended whiskey. I am still cradling my Bushmills 12 yr Distillery Reserve Whiskey. I always love showing up with a gallon jug of pre-mixed margaritas for the party, so Ive. As the rain pummels the ground here in the Pacific Northwest, a little window of blue sky nestled between two dark clouds in the neighboring distance makes me wish I were watching the rain fall from across a dark ocean, my little Caribbean fishing, Update! The worst mistake I made was ordering a Bass Ale in PJ Horgans on Queens Blvd. Talk about confused. Jeffrey, isnt there an expiration date to such things? Many of these came from the grain mills along the Bush River, where the current distillery stands today. Said to be the favorite of the Emerald Isle too. While John Jameson was most likely a Protestant, his distillery in Dublin represented the Free State mentality and did not suffer from bigoted hiring practices. Also, what in the heck does Virginia have to do with Kentucky Bourbon??? It may not be factual, verified, or correct, but definitely true. . West Virginia is the only U.S state where you can legally handle venomous serpents to prove your faith. As regards the Catholic v Protestant whiskey debate. What is the lore and legend and reputation of Tullamore Dew? The truth of the matter is, the age-old faux-pas of ordering Bushmills for fear of supporting English aggression and offending the Republic of Ireland is about as Irish as corned beef which is to say, not very Irish at all but rather Irish-American (Sorry, kids, corned beef is a Jewish invention). My South Side Irish Chicago Dad always told me that Jameson was the Catholic whisky and that Bushmills was the whiskey made by the damn Protestants. Check it out: http://whiskiesoftheworld.com. Yep, this goes back to when Bushmills was still part of IDL (Irish Distillers Limited) and owned by Pernod. And if you just like something different then Cooleys your distillery (though that Michael Collins stuff is shite). [4] In addition, Barnard was high in his praise for Powers whiskey, noting:[4]. [2] Powers' Morte d'Urban, for example, the novel may strike you as the slightly humorous failures of an all-too worldly priest. The spelling of whisk(e)y is actually a bit up in the air as far as that pesky e goes. Look for a new addition to the landscape, The Irishman Original Clan & Single Malt. I often wonder why those Irish-Americans (usually in Irish bars of Boston or New York)who bring up this absurd and frankly bigoted discussion about Protestant & Catholic whiskey do not apply the same rule when it comes to drinking that most Irish of drinks Guinness. Tullamore Dew has lemon notes with wood undertones, whereas Jameson has a light . I sincerely doubt that there are too many Irish Catholics who care about the religion attached to what they drink. The Fair Employment Commission gave Bushmills a clean bill of health. There is whiskey, and a whiskey drinker is a whiskey drinker no matter how they take it. Fact: the worst atrocities in the Irish struggle for freedom were perpetrated by the Irish on each other and were not likely fueled by religious affiliation but the politics of the time. I am not surprised that this thread is 6 years old and still going strong. Not enough time to read through comments. It was the anti-Catholic hiring practices that Bushmills employed in Northern Ireland that fueled the snub. It wasnt an issue about who owns what. The cheap rustic stuff is often the best. I was raised Catholic by my mother after the parents divorced when I was three. The widely-accepted Irish-American version is that Jameson is Catholic whiskey and Bushmills is Protestant whiskey. Redbreast is my favorite but I only buy a bottle or so a year. Although some Protestants continued to make and sell alcohol, and many more consumed it, the pressure was . As a good Roman Catholic, Ive always raised my Jameson in tribute to my Irish Catholic brethren (actually I like Jameson a little more than Bushmills anyway) until, on a recent trip to Ireland with my Irish-American Wife (nee Powers), I bought a bottle of Redbreast on a lark. Now, its important to note that the Scottish Reformation occurred in 1560, so odds are in favor of the founder of the Jameson distillery, being Scottish, was a damn Protestant. One of them said, My enemys enemy is my friend.. Entries are still open for the 2023 San Fr, This weekend, we hiked to the site of a natural ca, Valentines Day. Click here to learn how to make this and other drinks for a slushie machine! The make up of the folks who work at Bushmills reflects the religous makeup of Northern Ireland roughly 40% Roman Catholic. The full like of Bushmills (and a couple of other Irish whiskeys) will be available for sampling at Whiskies of the World on March 27th. Not sure this is the right spot, but an Irish colleague and I, had this debate last week around Bushmills v Jameson in an Irish pub, here in New York. First published on March 17, 2016 / 1:00 PM. As Jameson only uses the bourbon barrels once, the color and flavor is more reminiscent of American bourbon. If you are not an active Catholic or Protestant. Jameson Irish Whiskey is produced in Midleton, Ireland, though the original home of the brand is in Dublin. Usually King James Version. My post was simple stating that the problem still exists. Also, your giving Prince Harry more money to go on vacation, maybe Vegas again perhaps? Jameson is always a great go-to, easy and smooth. The version that Im familiar with is, of course Jamison is Catholic and Bushmills is Protestant. Today in Trader Joes, the checker looked at my bottle of Bushmills and then at me and asked, Catholic or Protestant? I had never heard that one before. What a great treat. We were servedcorned beef and cabbage with California wine and a shot of Paddy cut with Baileys after dinner. mhermher 9 yr. ago I always remark "that's Protestant whiskey" at any mention of bushmills, but no one ever catches the reference. Just got back from Dublin yesterday & loved reading the post & all the comments here. 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